tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25308225.post6781340762397948601..comments2024-01-18T19:35:13.610-08:00Comments on Collideoscope: You know who I am really really disliking right now....This Guy...(see Picture below)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25308225.post-5278376874542665402010-10-03T21:36:42.633-07:002010-10-03T21:36:42.633-07:00"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sw..."I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"<br /><br /> -Jesus (Matthew 10:34)Joel Rileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15449770157998900843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25308225.post-57344042261001518292010-10-03T17:11:22.662-07:002010-10-03T17:11:22.662-07:00without reading his stuff, I cannot give an accoun...without reading his stuff, I cannot give an accounting on that score, but I can tell you that having been in "the church" for over 40 years, it has been my experience that what is "real" or what he is saying "Jesus" is, would be the representation of the gospel of peace--that we are saved by grace--not by works. The outward appearance and the legalism that "the church" espouses, especially when it disguises the rampant sin that lies within, is not "real" in any sense of the word. <br /><br />God is love, he is not waiting to come down on us with his wrath--that has been satisfied by the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. In fact, Jesus did everything and has forgiven us for all our sins, past present and future. The church, however, does not teach that truth.<br /><br />Instead they teach that you may be <b>saved</b> only through Jesus, but from there on out, it is a struggle and act of your will and your behavior that makes you holy. That is NOT true. Either Jesus is the way, or He is not. <br /><br />What this generation wants is the real Jesus--the man who loved everyone, who emptied himself of all his Deity and became a man so he could bring us into a right relationship with God. They don't want rules, they want relationship.<br /><br />Perhaps his delivery was lacking, but it seems like from what you shared he said, that he shares the sentiment with a large number of young people around the world.orneryswifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13702378853361498700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25308225.post-72061355888294070662010-08-31T21:47:04.364-07:002010-08-31T21:47:04.364-07:00Seeing the book is not out yet I think you can be ...Seeing the book is not out yet I think you can be forgiven for not reading it.<br /><br />Seems to be just one of may books and blogs promoting an ill-defined monolithic view of Christianity using hyperbole to attack change / diversity.John Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25308225.post-46852017145417749302010-08-31T12:25:59.632-07:002010-08-31T12:25:59.632-07:00Caran,
I thank you for the response. My gripe was...Caran,<br /><br />I thank you for the response. My gripe was not with the book but with the article. Had he never written the book, my frustration would have not been lessoned. Although if you creep around the website, you will quickly see that at the fore of his arguments is that he is trying to demonstrate "Hipster Christians" are not so cool, and rather stereotypical (see anatomy of a Christian Hipster section on his website). And thus his accomplishments in the book (which he is lauded for) <br />include labeling Christians and putting them in a box and oversimplifies the identity of the Christian Hipster (which I would be one if I was creative enough). Which is fine, we all do that. BUt i guess the difference is in his labeling and stereotyping and mocking "relevant Christianity" he seems to be making such proclamations from a pedestal in the name of Christ. <br /><br />Perhaps I was too harsh on him (maybe the viking comment and calling him a baffoon was too much), but I guess I was wrongly using him as my whipping boy for all my pent up frustration that I have seen in our movement about this subject but cannot speak about (people ripping on attempts to be relevant and arguing for "real" Christianity) since they are too close to home.<br /><br />I do acknowledge my hypocrisy in my "shaming" of McCracken, but that was intentional. Because I was not trying to cloak my insults in a cloud of righteousness. <br /><br />I guess in sum, if you are going to spout off about what you do or don't like about Christianity or what churches are doing like McCracken did, for Goddsake, don't do it in the name of trying to be a "real Christian."<br /><br />Fondly,<br /><br />JoelJoel Rileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15449770157998900843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25308225.post-24792735679864101482010-08-31T04:43:42.875-07:002010-08-31T04:43:42.875-07:00I'm disappointed that you didn't read the ...I'm disappointed that you didn't read the book before publicly scorning not only it, but McCracken personally. <br /><br />You may have felt the same way after reading it, but at least you would have read more than you wrote in response to it. <br /><br />I feel your point about the human tendency to think your version of Christianity (or your view of Christ) is the most correct could have been made without shaming an individual's efforts.carandavishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08564674383481655681noreply@blogger.com